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  1. virtual_gravity

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    Posted 9 years ago
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    Almost done the DVD bundle, love it!

    I'm going to be purchasing the quadruped series soon.

    Which tutorials would anyone recommend for facial rigging?
    I already have the Stop Staring tutorial.

  2. Javier "Goosh" Solsona (admin)

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    Posted 9 years ago
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    Well... The Quadruped Series is the best... of course!!

    I have Aaron's DVDs and I really enjoyed them
    http://www.fahrenheitdigital.com/dvds/rigging/

    I haven't really seen a lot about facial.
    I think it's mainly 'cause
    1) it's hard (when done properly)
    2) often every studio has their own tools and without that, you can't do much
    3) it's tedious, slow work

  3. Coyote12

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    Be careful about Aarons DVD's as I went and ordered them a few months ago in October and after two months of waiting I never recieved my dvd's and had to request to have me money refunded. Whoever is in charge of distribution should really do a better job because 2 months is a long time to wait and there was no response back to any of the emails I sent asking what the delay is.

    I had no problem ordering any of Jasons or Javiers dvd's but Aarons was a real dissapointment since I was really looking forward to learning from them.

    I actually just checked the Farhenheit Digital site and there is a notice at the top that the service is on hold and to check back later.

  4. Javier "Goosh" Solsona (admin)

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    That´s a pity

    I´ll see if I can get hold of Aaron to see what´s up

    I really enjoyed the DVDs

  5. kroopson

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    AFR is really great.

    Stop Staring is the best book about facial setup I've seen so far.
    Hyper realistic creature creation is worth reading also.

  6. Kai Pedersen

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    I have the AFR serious which I loved, I initially learned rigging mostly form Jason's older DVD's (geeze at this rate I should be sending him a percentage of my paycheque as I wouldn't' be where I am without his teachings)

    Aaron's DVD's are great, sometimes a little hard to sit through as he's literally does everythign step by step with detailed explanations meaning slow, but sitting through a section at a time is well worth it.

    Hyper Realistic was good, like the weighting parts in there, though I seem to remember feeling there was a gap or two in some explanations where I felt I had to sit down and figure some stuff on my own, but that's not a big issue for me, a step in the right direction is sometimes nicer then the whole answer as it encourages self discovery and a better understanding.

    Can't comment on Javier's stuff we just ordered them this morning.

    For facial stuff, I'd highly recommend Stop staring as well, fantastic book, Aaron's is the best material I've seen so far on a joint based approach. I'm wondering though if anyone has the supertoon series and could comment on it, I attended their one masterclass at siggraph and they covered a fair bit but that class wasn't recorded live and I have a feeling the DVD's don't cover the facial stuff as much. It got into surface based clustering and such which was really cool.

  7. Javier "Goosh" Solsona (admin)

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    The cartoon series is nice. Some cool setups and ideas. But I found the rigs soooo slow that are almost unusable (that was when they came out, I bet now with faster computers it might be a bit better)

    it´s good to see the different approaches though.

    for a while I got a lot of the DVDs that were out. And I was happy if I could get just one little thing out of them. That was worth it enough for me, finding little gems here and there. I guess that´s why I thought of the Tips and Tricks class.. figured might as well show all these little things I do all the time that might be second nature to me or a lot of people but others might find them useful and would help them out. I figured if out for the 20plus tips that are there, if everybody can come out of it learning one or two new tricks, I was be happy

  8. PixL

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    For facial rigging, this looks interesting (I've read thru it but not tried it yet):
    http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials/character/Facial-Animation-Rig-for-Delgo-276.html
    The character learning kit at cgtoolkit.com also has a section on facial rigging (which I've also read but not implemented).
    At some point I need to take some time and compare the two techniques...

  9. Kai Pedersen

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    Posted 8 years ago
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    I enjoyed the Tips and tricks, as I do most my rigging in CINEMA 4D, a lot of it was things was quite fascinating although most of it I have solutions for in my package (nice to have them in Maya now)
    Its those little bits of gold here and there in any persons book or DVD that make the difference, using the Color blending node was a great one in your DVD for example.

    Typically now Is ti through DVDs and most of it is apparent or often theres things where I even think I have a simpler or better solution already, and I can understand where a person would come from if that annoyed them or made them feel they wasted their money, but in an industry where every minute is a a lesson in the never ending learning curve, one time saving more effective approach is worth the entire cost imo.

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